Fuel Costs

[mdadgar]

The marina I gas up on at TRL is 3.69/gal for 91 no ethanol. I guess that isn't to terrible. Although I did run through about 120 gallons over the past 10 days

Every time I gas up at Holiday Island, I am reminded that marina gas in Arkansas is cheaper than street gas in California.

- Mark

[sailor55330]

What does the Volvo manual suggest? My guess is 87 is fully acceptable. If higher was required wouldn’t you have engine knocking?

They are designed to run on 87. Really I don't gain anything going to 91 on mine but a lighter pocket book.

Here in Minnesota everything except 91 octane has ethanol in it so all the marinas have only 91 octane.

Not quite true Bum....check out the station by BIR....you can get 110 (on the water, yes, 91)

[MnLakeBum]

Here in Minnesota everything except 91 octane has ethanol in it so all the marinas have only 91 octane.

Not quite true Bum....check out the station by BIR....you can get 110 (on the water, yes, 91)

Lol, yes, I've seen that. BIR is only 4 miles east our home as a crow flies and we can sometimes hear the cars racing and we can also enjoy their fireworks shows(they'll have a big one next month during NHRA Nationals) from our lakeside deck!

[kas232ca]

The marina I gas up on at TRL is 3.69/gal for 91 no ethanol. I guess that isn't to terrible. Although I did run through about 120 gallons over the past 10 days

Every time I gas up at Holiday Island, I am reminded that marina gas in Arkansas is cheaper than street gas in California.

- Mark

Yep, $3.89 yesterday at gas station for 89 Octane in CA. Arizona is about a dollar less.

[MnLakeBum]

The marina I gas up on at TRL is 3.69/gal for 91 no ethanol. I guess that isn't to terrible. Although I did run through about 120 gallons over the past 10 days

Every time I gas up at Holiday Island, I am reminded that marina gas in Arkansas is cheaper than street gas in California.

- Mark

Yep, $3.89 yesterday at gas station for 89 Octane in CA. Arizona is about a dollar less.

My buddy gassed up on the water in Lake Tahoe over the 4th of July and paid $6.40 per gallon. Expensive when you have twin Merc 6.2's running a lake that is 190 square miles, lol!! It's $4.75 on the water here in Minnesota but only about $3.04 for premium fuel off the water.

[Jeeper]

The on water marinas aren’t paying road taxes on the fuel. About 50 cents a gallon between state and federal depending on the state. That’s pretty good amount of extra profits.

[sailor55330]

Here in Minnesota everything except 91 octane has ethanol in it so all the marinas have only 91 octane.

Not quite true Bum....check out the station by BIR....you can get 110 (on the water, yes, 91)

Lol, yes, I've seen that. BIR is only 4 miles east our home as a crow flies and we can sometimes hear the cars racing and we can also enjoy their fireworks shows(they'll have a big one next month during NHRA Nationals) from our lakeside deck!

Best gas around regardless of Octane. Friend of mine owns it and he’s relentless about quality. Worth the drive and usually very competitively priced

On another note I was on the chain over the 4th. Thought hard about trying to find your compound but since I couldn’t get on plane due to passenger comfort, it seemed like a long way from Nisswa. One of these days I’m gonna make the trek from the north end!

[mdadgar]

My buddy gassed up on the water in Lake Tahoe over the 4th of July and paid $6.40 per gallon.

Still cheaper than 100 octane race track gas at $9.00/gallon.

- Mark

[MnLakeBum]

Not quite true Bum....check out the station by BIR....you can get 110 (on the water, yes, 91)

Lol, yes, I've seen that. BIR is only 4 miles east our home as a crow flies and we can sometimes hear the cars racing and we can also enjoy their fireworks shows(they'll have a big one next month during NHRA Nationals) from our lakeside deck!

Best gas around regardless of Octane. Friend of mine owns it and he’s relentless about quality. Worth the drive and usually very competitively priced

On another note I was on the chain over the 4th. Thought hard about trying to find your compound but since I couldn’t get on plane due to passenger comfort, it seemed like a long way from Nisswa. One of these days I’m gonna make the trek from the north end!

Stop by anytime. We were there all week but yes it's a haul from the north end of Gull - 13 miles south of Grand View Lodge by Nisswa. It's easy to spot from the lake just .5 miles north of Madden's Resort.

[2ridgebacks]

The on water marinas aren’t paying road taxes on the fuel. About 50 cents a gallon between state and federal depending on the state. That’s pretty good amount of extra profits.

We just had a conversation about that very thing a couple of weeks ago. Definitely pads the profit margin. I wonder if the land based stations avoid road tax by labeling it as “red gas”. It’s not labeled off road only, so I’m guessing the taxes are paid.

[MnLakeBum]

The on water marinas aren’t paying road taxes on the fuel. About 50 cents a gallon between state and federal depending on the state. That’s pretty good amount of extra profits.

We just had a conversation about that very thing a couple of weeks ago. Definitely pads the profit margin. I wonder if the land based stations avoid road tax by labeling it as “red gas”. It’s not labeled off road only, so I’m guessing the taxes are paid.

California just jacked their gas tax up again to 47.3 cents per gallon. Tack that onto the 18.4 cents federal tax. Gas in King's Beach, CA near our old condo is currently $4.19 for 87 octane and $4.79 for 91, lol!

[AsLan7]

The on water marinas aren’t paying road taxes on the fuel. About 50 cents a gallon between state and federal depending on the state. That’s pretty good amount of extra profits.

We just had a conversation about that very thing a couple of weeks ago. Definitely pads the profit margin. I wonder if the land based stations avoid road tax by labeling it as “red gas”. It’s not labeled off road only, so I’m guessing the taxes are paid.

California just jacked their gas tax up again to 47.3 cents per gallon. Tack that onto the 18.4 cents federal tax. Gas in King's Beach, CA near our old condo is currently $4.19 for 87 octane and $4.79 for 91, lol!

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Although CA gas prices are higher than ours, PA has the highest state tax add on in the country....60 cents per gallon.

To put things in perspective though, at least our prices beat Amsterdam or Oslo at over $6/gallon.

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[sailor55330]

Lol, yes, I've seen that. BIR is only 4 miles east our home as a crow flies and we can sometimes hear the cars racing and we can also enjoy their fireworks shows(they'll have a big one next month during NHRA Nationals) from our lakeside deck!

Best gas around regardless of Octane. Friend of mine owns it and he’s relentless about quality. Worth the drive and usually very competitively priced

On another note I was on the chain over the 4th. Thought hard about trying to find your compound but since I couldn’t get on plane due to passenger comfort, it seemed like a long way from Nisswa. One of these days I’m gonna make the trek from the north end!

Stop by anytime. We were there all week but yes it's a haul from the north end of Gull - 13 miles south of Grand View Lodge by Nisswa. It's easy to spot from the lake just .5 miles north of Madden's Resort.

It wouldn't be bad, but had to keep the speed down due to the wife's surgery recovery (they told her no, but what could a little idling hurt, right) I'm printing this and putting it in the boat for the day I do show up!

[Jeeper]

The on water marinas aren’t paying road taxes on the fuel. About 50 cents a gallon between state and federal depending on the state. That’s pretty good amount of extra profits.

We just had a conversation about that very thing a couple of weeks ago. Definitely pads the profit margin. I wonder if the land based stations avoid road tax by labeling it as “red gas”. It’s not labeled off road only, so I’m guessing the taxes are paid.

The businesses that use off road fuel gas and diesel file for tax rebates from the state and federal governments. A lot of construction company’s use all clear fuel and keep track of what is used on highway and off highway and get a tax rebate on off road fuel, gasoline is the same. I work in the wholesale fuel industry so I know how fuel reporting and taxes work.

[2ridgebacks]

I was agreeing with you (“red” gas was typed as “rec” gas and autocorrected). With your background, maybe you can shed some light on the other part of what was said. I have a station by me that sells off road diesel and rec gas. They claim that there are no road taxes paid on the off road diesel and that is the price difference to regular diesel. They also claim that certain workers will call in your tag if you fill your truck. Would gasoline have to be labeled for off road use or sold through a marina or some other outlet not normally associated with autos to avoid the road tax?