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Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:37 am
by Dropped Anchor
Anything big? First thing I saw was that it looks like JL Audio is now the standard stereo vs. the Rockford Fosgate. I see a new gray color is added.

The CS series still has a discount, but the prices have gone up on those.. Several thousand compared to last year when I selected the same options vs. the 2019 model.

No built in discount on the R Series. The R3 is a huge jump in price from the CS series. We are talking for a bone stock CS 22 you are mid 50's. For a bone stock R3 it is $100,000+. I guess you negotiate that with your dealer and with the CS it is more like "no haggle".. I love the R3 (and all the R boats)

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:27 am
by tgrace98
Dropped Anchor wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:37 am Anything big? First thing I saw was that it looks like JL Audio is now the standard stereo vs. the Rockford Fosgate. I see a new gray color is added.

The CS series still has a discount, but the prices have gone up on those.. Several thousand compared to last year when I selected the same options vs. the 2019 model.

No built in discount on the R Series. The R3 is a huge jump in price from the CS series. We are talking for a bone stock CS 22 you are mid 50's. For a bone stock R3 it is $100,000+. I guess you negotiate that with your dealer and with the CS it is more like "no haggle".. I love the R3 (and all the R boats)
You should be able to haggle the R series boats down 20-30% depending on your region or dealer. In my now 5 years of following cobalts I have never seen Cobalt discount the R series.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:29 am
by Tuscany
The yearly price increases from Cobalt are dramatic. My exact boat has risen almost 20k from 2017 to 2020.
IMO, you will never see a price decrease or sale on an A or R series. Doing so would kill resale, and as long as the plant is building full tilt, expect the same increases every year.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:06 am
by Norris_Boating
There have been multiple people with issues with the Rockford fosgate stereo including me. Have they replaced all the RF with JL or just the standard?
Agree you should be able to to get between 20-30% off MSRP, keep that in mind as you add options that they are discounted as well. So engine upgrades for 10k are really only 7-8k.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:09 am
by Big Block Power
Norris_Boating wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:06 am
Agree you should be able to to get between 20-30% off MSRP, keep that in mind as you add options that they are discounted as well. So engine upgrades for 10k are really only 7-8k.
Or free πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

380 to 240
Just saying it's the go to engine right now.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:26 am
by Dropped Anchor
That is what I figured. I think the 10 series (210,220,CS) they announce the discount the get peeps like me in the family. The higher end they don’t announce and it is on you and market conditions to get the discount. I doubt they discount much off the 10 series already reduced price EXCEPT during the boat show pricing time when they are even cheaper than the current discount price online.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:37 am
by Ytmsn
It was funny watching Matt "upgrade" engines at the factory tour on the build sheets! And then he found this handy little engine cover complete with cup holders...

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:41 am
by tgrace98
Well I am glad I bought a 19. I just built my exact same boat in a 2020 and it is 8k more MSRP than the boat I bought.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:48 am
by Big Block Power
tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:41 am Well I am glad I bought a 19. I just built my exact same boat in a 2020 and it is 8k more MSRP than the boat I bought.
Doesn't that mean you will get 8k more in 10 years. It's all relative.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:52 am
by Tuscany
Big Block Power wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:48 am
tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:41 am Well I am glad I bought a 19. I just built my exact same boat in a 2020 and it is 8k more MSRP than the boat I bought.
Doesn't that mean you will get 8k more in 10 years. It's all relative.
Agree, It is relative, except for the very few who never plan on upgrading. Unless prices rise on new builds, resale goes into the toilet for the rest of us.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:13 am
by tgrace98
Tuscany wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:52 am
Big Block Power wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:48 am
tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:41 am Well I am glad I bought a 19. I just built my exact same boat in a 2020 and it is 8k more MSRP than the boat I bought.
Doesn't that mean you will get 8k more in 10 years. It's all relative.
Agree, It is relative, except for the very few who never plan on upgrading. Unless prices rise on new builds, resale goes into the toilet for the rest of us.
I plan on keeping this boat until it is probably worth pennies on the dollar. So to me after discounts that is about 5k less that I had to spend up front. So it is relative to me.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:17 am
by AsLan7
tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:13 am

I plan on keeping this boat until it is probably worth pennies on the dollar.
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...said every new boat owner ever. ;)

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Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:21 am
by tgrace98
AsLan7 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:17 am
tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:13 am

I plan on keeping this boat until it is probably worth pennies on the dollar.
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...said every new boat owner ever. ;)

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Ha very true A7. I don't see any reason for upgrading. If I go any larger I would want twins and I do not want the cost that comes with twins. So I will be in my R7 for a while. Now if Cobalt would come out with something in the 27ft range with twins. I could see myself running to the dealer.

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:16 am
by Bamabonners
Price increases are the Malibu way. I used to buy a new malibu every year. After the 3rd one, I just couldn't do it anymore... prices increased steadily
7-9% each year.

The good news in the wakeboat market is, now, since the prices on new ones are insanely high, used prices are going up as well. It really is pretty nice to buy a used boat, keep it a few years and sell it for what you paid for it (possibly a little more).

Re: Changes for 2020 models

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:28 am
by Dropped Anchor
Bamabonners wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:16 am I used to buy a new malibu every year. After the 3rd one
RICH