Is something stirring at Cobalt?

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Macarokks wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm
tgrace98 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:51 pm
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:51 am

It looks a bit like a CS with the black striping widening to the swim platform (I know it isn't one though). We should be seeing the R6 sometime this month if my initial information from Coblat (April 2019) is correct. It is supposed to be introduced in the fall and start selling in 2020 as a 2021 model.
My guess would be if something is getting announced for 2021 it will get shown off at the dealers summit that is in the fall. That was when the A36BR was announced for the first time last year. If not we might have to wait until Miami in Feb.

WIth the rising popularity of the surf models in the R series do you all ever see a time in which the R series is nothing but Surf boats? And if you want a traditional stern drive you will have to move up to the A series? I doubt Cobalt would ever do this but I am seeing more and more surf boats getting built.
I do know that industry research shows that a flat transom produces a better wake. Wake/surf boats continue to gain market share. Gotta go where the buyers are.
Yet Malibu and Centurion are showing boats with a deeper vee these days. My friend has a 5-year-old Centurion with a flatter hull and the ride is miserable on a choppy lake - conditions it wasn't designed for. I think the newer surf boats have addressed this.
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BobRae99 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:58 pm
Macarokks wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm
tgrace98 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:51 pm

My guess would be if something is getting announced for 2021 it will get shown off at the dealers summit that is in the fall. That was when the A36BR was announced for the first time last year. If not we might have to wait until Miami in Feb.

WIth the rising popularity of the surf models in the R series do you all ever see a time in which the R series is nothing but Surf boats? And if you want a traditional stern drive you will have to move up to the A series? I doubt Cobalt would ever do this but I am seeing more and more surf boats getting built.
I do know that industry research shows that a flat transom produces a better wake. Wake/surf boats continue to gain market share. Gotta go where the buyers are.
Yet Malibu and Centurion are showing boats with a deeper vee these days. My friend has a 5-year-old Centurion with a flatter hull and the ride is miserable on a choppy lake - conditions it wasn't designed for. I think the newer surf boats have addressed this.
Mac is talking about the transom being flat, not the deadrise on the hull being flat. So rather the back egde of the boat has one consistent line across the transom rather than the extended "boxes" on either side of the I/O
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Lockey14s wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:28 pm
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:58 pm
Macarokks wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm

I do know that industry research shows that a flat transom produces a better wake. Wake/surf boats continue to gain market share. Gotta go where the buyers are.
Yet Malibu and Centurion are showing boats with a deeper vee these days. My friend has a 5-year-old Centurion with a flatter hull and the ride is miserable on a choppy lake - conditions it wasn't designed for. I think the newer surf boats have addressed this.
Mac is talking about the transom being flat, not the deadrise on the hull being flat. So rather the back egde of the boat has one consistent line across the transom rather than the extended "boxes" on either side of the I/O
OK. I just note that the Surf boat companies are trying to adjust their designs to play nicer in the arena of traditional bowriders and their marketing spends a fair bit of time talking up the "ride". I think they see a risk of some sales heading to a "hybrid" boat like the R Surf series.
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Lockey14s wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:28 pm
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:58 pm
Macarokks wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm

I do know that industry research shows that a flat transom produces a better wake. Wake/surf boats continue to gain market share. Gotta go where the buyers are.
Yet Malibu and Centurion are showing boats with a deeper vee these days. My friend has a 5-year-old Centurion with a flatter hull and the ride is miserable on a choppy lake - conditions it wasn't designed for. I think the newer surf boats have addressed this.
Mac is talking about the transom being flat, not the deadrise on the hull being flat. So rather the back egde of the boat has one consistent line across the transom rather than the extended "boxes" on either side of the I/O
Exactly so current Cobalt models have the “extended running surface” which is a contributor to the smooth ride.

Industry shows that boats without an extended running surface produce better wakes.. hence flatter transom.

Yes surf models from other companies are showing a steeper deadrise more like a Cobalt and I predict we will see more of this, just like in the newly announced Malibu M240.
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This is the lip I can curl in my ‘79 19BR with no assistance and it is also a normal sterndrive. (Nobody is allowed to surf it.) I have a relatively narrow beam. Just trimmed up and 8-10 mph. Obviously surfers want bigger longer better etc. point being, this is a result of the flat transom.
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So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

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sailor55330 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:53 pm So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

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You win. Up to the twin 4s.lmao.
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Lol.
Lost me when you said no head would be available .
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sailor55330 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:53 pm So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

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You sure did S55330000! I was all excited when I heard wrap-around seating, rotating FWD or REAR outdrive, and 26x styling. You got me good with the first half. :lol:
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Big Block Power wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:01 pm
sailor55330 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:53 pm So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

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sailor55330 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:53 pm So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

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I'm going WTF is he on about?

For reals though, Rotating skeg? How cool would that be?
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liquid wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:28 am
sailor55330 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:53 pm So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

Did I get ya?
I'm going WTF is he on about?

For reals though, Rotating skeg? How cool would that be?
I know. I'm all over this inboard pod set up. Let's do it. Volvo already has one.
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Big Block Power wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:32 pm
liquid wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:28 am
sailor55330 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:53 pm So, my travels put me on a lot of planes and as luck would have it, I ended up next to a guy with a Cobalt shirt...well conversations ensued and one of us had a few drinks and well, this spilled out. It sounds like the new 4/6/8 series will actually be mostly new, with styling cues from the 26x bow with aft lines of the A series. The interior will feature the flip passenger seats, but have a wrap around stern seating. You will not be able to get a "head", but in the "8", a cuddy cabin will be available. Engine choices are totally new and unique to Cobalt as they will feature an I/O that can be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed. The base model engine will be the V6. You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's and the new 4 will come with 8 weedwacker engines with counter rotating direct drives that will sound like an angry swarm of bees. Time to plane will be 3 days, 2 hours, and 4 minutes, but fuel consumption will be approximately 0.00003 GPH at WOT at 14,000RPM.

Did I get ya?
I'm going WTF is he on about?

For reals though, Rotating skeg? How cool would that be?
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"be reconfigured via hydraulics in the water with a rotating skeg and props to make it a forward drive when needed".
Wow! Cobalt is adding Azipods. Docking should be a lot easier.

"You will be able to get the 6/8 with twin 4's"
Dang! I just got taken for a ride. Everything made so much sense up to that point...
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Bfun220 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:24 pm Lol.
Lost me when you said no head would be available .
Yeah, me too, but I find that very hard to believe.
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