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Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:10 pm
by undercoverVOL
Hello,

Had a few weeks with the boat. Looking for more ways to customize the wave.... we have been simply filling ballasts and selecting either surf right/left and adjusting speed between 10.8 and 11.6.

We have been using the trim assist which automatically sets it as 0. Does anyone have any experience raising or lowering trim while surfing, and if so what were the effects? The wave is awesome and I am just looking for more ways to dial it in.

We do not have the options for steep/mellow wave.

Thanks everyone for your insights.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm
by dsthomas
We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:57 pm
by undercoverVOL
dsthomas wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.
We have set up with the profiles for each of us, was just looking for ways to configure more. Thank you for the insights. Ill trying setting it on 3 next time i go and plat with it from there. Thank you!

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 11:31 pm
by dsthomas
Your welcome!

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:28 am
by 2023BlackR8SURF
Interested in this thread as I am trying to get my wave perfected in my 2021 R8 Surf. What is TPM stand for? Trim? Thanks, in advance.

dsthomas wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:06 pm
by dsthomas
2023BlackR8SURF wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:28 am Interested in this thread as I am trying to get my wave perfected in my 2021 R8 Surf. What is TPM stand for? Trim? Thanks, in advance.

dsthomas wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.
I think it's trim pitch measurement but I don't know for sure. It's the angle of the out drive. I think they started doing that in 2022, so on your Garmin it may still have a percentage instead of an angle measurement but I also don't know that for sure either. The higher the number for us the higher the wave. Basically the more up the drive is the taller the wave. You can also control that with ballast. The faster we go the longer the wave gets. Hope that helps.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:40 am
by undercoverVOL
2023BlackR8SURF wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:28 am Interested in this thread as I am trying to get my wave perfected in my 2021 R8 Surf. What is TPM stand for? Trim? Thanks, in advance.

dsthomas wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.
we found this weekend that a TPM (trim) of 2 and a speed of 11.6 with 50/70/50 ballast produced a really nice, long wave. Surfed on a malibu and our cobalt this weekend. The Malibu had a longer wave, while our Cobalt's was steeper. Next time i am going to do less ballast and see what we get with that. Hope this helps

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:59 am
by 2023BlackR8SURF
Good stuff. Thank you!
dsthomas wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:06 pm
2023BlackR8SURF wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:28 am Interested in this thread as I am trying to get my wave perfected in my 2021 R8 Surf. What is TPM stand for? Trim? Thanks, in advance.

dsthomas wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.
I think it's trim pitch measurement but I don't know for sure. It's the angle of the out drive. I think they started doing that in 2022, so on your Garmin it may still have a percentage instead of an angle measurement but I also don't know that for sure either. The higher the number for us the higher the wave. Basically the more up the drive is the taller the wave. You can also control that with ballast. The faster we go the longer the wave gets. Hope that helps.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:00 am
by 2023BlackR8SURF
Great info will try these settings too.
undercoverVOL wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:40 am
2023BlackR8SURF wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:28 am Interested in this thread as I am trying to get my wave perfected in my 2021 R8 Surf. What is TPM stand for? Trim? Thanks, in advance.

dsthomas wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:31 pm We have found that the lower the TPM the smaller the wave and the higher the TPM the higher the wave. To lengthen the wave we go a little faster. We usually use full ballast and then 3 degrees on the tpm and 11.5 mph will give you a great wave. Also if you play around with the menu options you will see you can save surf profiles. My son likes 50% left and right ballast and 70% center with 0 on the tpm and 10.5 mph and he surfs right side. It's so nice to just touch his name and It all sets up for him.
we found this weekend that a TPM (trim) of 2 and a speed of 11.6 with 50/70/50 ballast produced a really nice, long wave. Surfed on a malibu and our cobalt this weekend. The Malibu had a longer wave, while our Cobalt's was steeper. Next time i am going to do less ballast and see what we get with that. Hope this helps

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:07 am
by 2023BlackR8SURF
Had a great day on the water yesterday. Have the port side wake dialed in based on the feedback here. 11.6 speed, ballast port side full, center full, starboard 1/2, trim 3. I'm struggling to get the starboard to clean up with the same settings flipped. Any suggestions? Maybe my R8 is gonna be a port wake surf boat?

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:06 pm
by dsthomas
Yes all the seating is on the port side. So maybe try no ballast on the port side?

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:00 pm
by MNStCroix
I’ve been tweaking the surf setting on my R8S all summer and found the best wave is full ballasts, 11.3 mph, and +3 trim angle. You do need to turn off the Trim Assist. Effective for both right and left sides.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:00 am
by 2023BlackR8SURF
Will try this next time out.


MNStCroix wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:00 pm I’ve been tweaking the surf setting on my R8S all summer and found the best wave is full ballasts, 11.3 mph, and +3 trim angle. You do need to turn off the Trim Assist. Effective for both right and left sides.

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 9:39 am
by Speedracer
New R8S owner, and member, good info and learning! Glad to see some chat on baseline settings. I'd love to see a chart of baseline settings built by users by skill and rider demo; IE
Beginner/youth 100-140# - 50/70/50, +3, 10.8
Intermediate/adult 175-200# - 100/100/100, 0, 11.2

I'm surprised how little info there is on help, factory, youtube, owners...etc. We have intially built profiles for 3 rider types as defaults in system and have been playing with settings, problem is I don't know what I don't know!

Looking forward to sharing info as I learn

Re: Wave Customization 2023 R8 Surf

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 6:52 am
by AsLan7
Speedracer wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:39 am New R8S owner, and member, good info and learning! Glad to see some chat on baseline settings. I'd love to see a chart of baseline settings built by users by skill and rider demo; IE
Beginner/youth 100-140# - 50/70/50, +3, 10.8
Intermediate/adult 175-200# - 100/100/100, 0, 11.2

I'm surprised how little info there is on help, factory, youtube, owners...etc. We have intially built profiles for 3 rider types as defaults in system and have been playing with settings, problem is I don't know what I don't know!

Looking forward to sharing info as I learn
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So glad you found us Speedracer. Love the username. Big fan.

You're right, there is not alot out there on setting for surf. Hopefully you started a trend with your post and others will chime in.

And welcome aboard mate!

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