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Big Block Power wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:30 pm

sailor55330 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am They are all extremely cute. Have you met them to see the real personalities? They should just be coming out about now.

BTW--Nauti---biting is one of the easiest fixes in the dog world.....hit me up with a PM if you want some help.

Heck with the pm do tell us.

OK BBP---Here goes-


If you have a dog that is biting (assuming the dog is not biting out of aggression, which is a whole separate issue), the cure is to "bite them back". What you do while the dog has your hand in it's mouth is to do the following:

1. DON"T pull your hand away. This is the tough part.

2. With your free hand, slowly reach over the dog's nose and curl his/her own lips over the canine teeth and apply gentle steady pressure while giving the command of your choice (No bite, out, easy, etc---the command word doesn't matter as long as you are consistent). You want the points of the teeth to be in solid contact with the lips. Fair warning, the dog may squeal or cry depending on how stubborn the dog is, but they will release. Those puppy needles feel the same on their lips as they do on our hands.

3. The second the dog releases pressure and opens their mouth, the squeezing stops, the hand comes out and they IMMEDIATELY get verbal praise--Good Boy! Good Dog! Etc.

You may have to adjust the pressure of the squeeze until you find that dog's threshold. What you are doing is teaching the dog through what we call "training pressure". The dog is in control and learns a negative response to putting a hand in it's mouth. It teaches the dog that when they put teeth on skin it has a negative consequence, but it also teaches the dog how to turn the pressure off by releasing the hand. You need to do this consistently and firmly as does everyone in the household who is old enough to get the concept every time it happens. It usually only takes a couple of times and the dogs figure it out pretty quickly but as I've said before, I've trained a lot of dogs, but not yours, so everything is variable. It the same basic principle puppies use when they are playing to let each other know it's getting to rough. It might sound crazy, but I've never seen it not work. Hope that helps some

Big Block Power wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:30 pm

sailor55330 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am They are all extremely cute. Have you met them to see the real personalities? They should just be coming out about now.

BTW--Nauti---biting is one of the easiest fixes in the dog world.....hit me up with a PM if you want some help.

Heck with the pm do tell us.

Seriously Cesar Milan, let's hear it. Don't say kick em.

UPDATE - disregard, I didn't see your response.

Tuscany wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:53 pm

sailor55330 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am They are all extremely cute. Have you met them to see the real personalities? They should just be coming out about now.

BTW--Nauti---biting is one of the easiest fixes in the dog world.....hit me up with a PM if you want some help.

I won’t have the opportunity Sailor. The breeder is 5 hours away and may is not a good month for spare time. Do you have advice on what to ask?

Well, that's not the end of the world. You are looking for the dog that is the most well rounded. I would be asking things like:

Which dog seems to be the dominant pup among the litter? Who controls the toys? Who was usually the last to nurse?

How are you socializing? IE: What stimulus are they/have they been exposed to? Car rides, outside, loud noises, vaccums--etc? (my pups learn to eat with a cap gun shot over them at 6 weeks)

Which dog likes to be handled/picked up the most? The least?

Which dog shows the most natural curiosity?

Here's a big one---if possible can you interact with the parents when you are there? It tells you a lot if you can---not always an option though. They are all cute and I'm sure they will all be great pets. And if you go with "Surf", it'll be the cheapest "Surf" you pay for!

Lastly, what age will they be when you pick he/she/them up? It's best to try and separate around 49 days/7 weeks from the mother if possible--at least that's the rule of thumb. Best age for learning appropriate play from their littermates, but still the right age to bond with the new family the easiest.


Those are few of the things I would be thinking about, but that's me... I tend to like the ones with some outlaw in them (or as we call it,a lot of bottom end). I want to the dog to listen to my commands but push just to the edge so I know they are thinking on their own and choosing to work with me . Make sure you get the type of food they are on and continue with that until you've had them for a few weeks and they stabilize in the new surroundings, then you can switch slowly if inclined. I'm a big Proplan fan personally.

PS, here's my personal tip---want the dog to bond with you or a particular person in the house? Put a T-shirt they've worn (without washing) in their bed the first night....helps to get them used to your scent and identify you as the pack.

Your adventures are just beginning. You will love the new pup, want to kill it, hope to get rid of it, and wonder how you lived without it, all in the first week! Besides, we all know you're gonna get the one that the family falls in love with first! Congrats!

PS---sorry for the long winded response--I kind of like dogs.

sailor55330 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:10 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:30 pm

sailor55330 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am They are all extremely cute. Have you met them to see the real personalities? They should just be coming out about now.

BTW--Nauti---biting is one of the easiest fixes in the dog world.....hit me up with a PM if you want some help.

Heck with the pm do tell us.

OK BBP---Here goes-


If you have a dog that is biting (assuming the dog is not biting out of aggression, which is a whole separate issue), the cure is to "bite them back". What you do while the dog has your hand in it's mouth is to do the following:

1. DON"T pull your hand away. This is the tough part.

2. With your free hand, slowly reach over the dog's nose and curl his/her own lips over the canine teeth and apply gentle steady pressure while giving the command of your choice (No bite, out, easy, etc---the command word doesn't matter as long as you are consistent). You want the points of the teeth to be in solid contact with the lips. Fair warning, the dog may squeal or cry depending on how stubborn the dog is, but they will release. Those puppy needles feel the same on their lips as they do on our hands.

3. The second the dog releases pressure and opens their mouth, the squeezing stops, the hand comes out and they IMMEDIATELY get verbal praise--Good Boy! Good Dog! Etc.

You may have to adjust the pressure of the squeeze until you find that dog's threshold. What you are doing is teaching the dog through what we call "training pressure". The dog is in control and learns a negative response to putting a hand in it's mouth. It teaches the dog that when they put teeth on skin it has a negative consequence, but it also teaches the dog how to turn the pressure off by releasing the hand. You need to do this consistently and firmly as does everyone in the household who is old enough to get the concept every time it happens. It usually only takes a couple of times and the dogs figure it out pretty quickly but as I've said before, I've trained a lot of dogs, but not yours, so everything is variable. It the same basic principle puppies use when they are playing to let each other know it's getting to rough. It might sound crazy, but I've never seen it not work. Hope that helps some

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You provide great advice in this thread S55330. Thank you!.....and we did what you mentioned above with our Golden pup a couple of years ago and it worked like a charm.

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Glad to hear that A7 and thank you...your always quick with your praise of my rambles. Nothing cuter than a sleeping pup! 've been lucky to learn from some great dog handlers...I enjoy helping when I can. I have no doubts that your Golden and Tuscany's new litter have no clue how lucky they are/were to land where they did and I'm sure they'll train Tusc in no time.

+1 on sending clothing for the puppy to sleep with. We dropped off baby blankets for both kids (infants at the time) and the puppy LOVED them from day one.

Thanks for all the great tips Sailor!


Marzen is getting his adult teeth now at 4 months so we've survived most of the puppy biting phase. I went with the get up and walk away approach... And there were days nothing seemed to work...but I'll keep him!

Any tips for off leash training? We have a big field at the lake house that I would like him to run and play but I want to him come when called. He's good on a leash but don't know how to start to work towards off leash time.

Pic for cuteness!

Hey Nauti-

Off lead work is a little different and I can throw some tips your way. First, long distance off lead training starts with close up obedience work on a 6ft leash. If the dog doesn't know the basics like sit, stay, and come at 6ft when you have control, you'll never have control at 10, 25, 50, 1/4 mile, etc. If I had to make a snap judgement from a pic, he's looks like a smart guy. Good eye contact and very aware of what's going on with you and seems to be dialed in. That's a great start.

There are some definite tips and tricks that start with the 6ft lead and then progress to a 15 or 20 training lead, then off lead work. Let me find some time to write it up. I don't want to hijack Tuscany's new family thread. That work?

sailor55330 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm Hey Nauti-

Off lead work is a little different and I can throw some tips your way. First, long distance off lead training starts with close up obedience work on a 6ft leash. If the dog doesn't know the basics like sit, stay, and come at 6ft when you have control, you'll never have control at 10, 25, 50, 1/4 mile, etc. If I had to make a snap judgement from a pic, he's looks like a smart guy. Good eye contact and very aware of what's going on with you and seems to be dialed in. That's a great start.

There are some definite tips and tricks that start with the 6ft lead and then progress to a 15 or 20 training lead, then off lead work. Let me find some time to write it up. I don't want to hijack Tuscany's new family thread. That work?

Awesome! Thanks for your time!

Sailor I'll trade you your r3 for advice. I don't have a dog. Would love to have one but not home enough so it wouldn't be fair to it. I love reading these tips. We should start something in the marina and move some of these tips over to it. I'll read these fur ever. Great advice sailor!!

BBP-

That’s a heck of a gesture—thank you! Not sure my little bit of knowledge warrants that. Why not just make it known that I’m willing to try and help any of the members with dog questions? Might be easier and not nearly as long winded.

Good stuff Sailor, thanks for sharing! The way I got our pup to stop biting was to not jerk my hand back when bitten (very hard to do) but basically yelp, or call out OUCH real load. Immediately she'd stop, or let off any pressure. I was taught years ago by a good handler, pups learn to gauge their bite in play. Sometimes you'll hear a pup yelp when two are playing, and it teaches the other pup to not bite so hard and ease up. It really works with our dog.

Ytmsn wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:04 pm Good stuff Sailor, thanks for sharing! The way I got our pup to stop biting was to not jerk my hand back when bitten (very hard to do) but basically yelp, or call out OUCH real load. Immediately she'd stop, or let off any pressure. I was taught years ago by a good handler, pups learn to gauge their bite in play. Sometimes you'll hear a pup yelp when two are playing, and it teaches the other pup to not bite so hard and ease up. It really works with our dog.

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We use that one too YT. You’re right. Very effective.

So Marzen had quite the evening yesterday... We had some new neighbors move in with not 1 but 2 great Danes! Owners wanted the dogs to meet and Marzen is a social dood so he started walking up the drive way until he made eye contact with "Thor"... His reaction was hysterical... Like Wtf is that a horse? All was good until Thor's brother came bolting out of the garage...also friendly but when 200lbs is coming at you, you get nervous. I've never heard Marzen make the noises that he did.... Other neighbors came out to check on him!

We separated the dogs and had a better meeting a few minutes later but Marzen will keep an eye on thoae boys!

NautiGirl wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:46 am So Marzen had quite the evening yesterday... We had some new neighbors move in with not 1 but 2 great Danes! Owners wanted the dogs to meet and Marzen is a social dood so he started walking up the drive way until he made eye contact with "Thor"... His reaction was hysterical... Like Wtf is that a horse? All was good until Thor's brother came bolting out of the garage...also friendly but when 200lbs is coming at you, you get nervous. I've never heard Marzen make the noises that he did.... Other neighbors came out to check on him!

We separated the dogs and had a better meeting a few minutes later but Marzen will keep an eye on thoae boys!

Well, I'd probably make some strange sounds too if two big-ole great Danes came running up to me. Just sayin..
I'm sure it wouldn't be pretty.