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Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:31 am
by Fun2Fish
tgrace98 wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:57 am
Tuscany wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:49 am
willyswagon wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:24 pm
Well all I can say is.... Folks it's time to check your insurance policy to see what it states about freeze damage coverage.
.......and that's why I would let your dealer take care of it. If something were to freeze, it's totally on them..
Agree 1000% I get people want to do everything themselves. And I admire that. But a cracked motor or drive due to improper winterization can be a 7,000+ dollar mistake. The harbor charges me under 200 bucks to winterize. I just call that my winter insurance policy.
Yup, think i paid around $200 and that was with them coming over to Shell Knob.They dont "fog" the engine though

their response was, nobody does that anymore. Its in the owners manual though...thoughts?
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:37 am
by akorcovelos
Fun2Fish wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:31 am
tgrace98 wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:57 am
Tuscany wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:49 am
.......and that's why I would let your dealer take care of it. If something were to freeze, it's totally on them..
Agree 1000% I get people want to do everything themselves. And I admire that. But a cracked motor or drive due to improper winterization can be a 7,000+ dollar mistake. The harbor charges me under 200 bucks to winterize. I just call that my winter insurance policy.
Yup, think i paid around $200 and that was with them coming over to Shell Knob.They dont "fog" the engine though

their response was, nobody does that anymore. Its in the owners manual though...thoughts?
I'd find a marina that follows the service manual. Fogging isn't really "fogging" anymore, it's running lubricated fuel through the injection system to prevent fouling injectors, and on some older models like mine the VST is sensitive to clogging if not lubed for long term storage. It takes an extra 30 min, well worth the effort.
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:10 am
by cmattj
Cast iron cylinders left for many months unused can form a slight tarnished rust even with the oil film left behind after its last running cycle. Remember you have valves left open so not all cylinders are sealed , and exposed to damp moist air. The thinking is piston rings won’t have to bear the clean up of rust and wear prematurely or loose sealing properties.
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We used to fog our race motors for winter by cranking it over 5-10 seconds ( you don’t need to run it) and spraying a blend of marvel and oil through a wide open carb. ( ignition off ) .
Stabil makes aresol spray that simplify this if someone feels the need.
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:13 am
by akorcovelos
cmattj wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:10 am
Cast iron cylinders left for many months unused can form a slight tarnished rust even with the oil film left behind after its last running cycle. Remember you have valves left open so not all cylinders are sealed , and exposed to damp moist air. The thinking is piston rings won’t have to bear the clean up of rust and wear prematurely or loose sealing properties.
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We used to fog our race motors for winter by cranking it over 5-10 seconds ( you don’t need to run it) and spraying a blend of marvel and oil through a wide open carb. ( ignition off ) .
Stabil makes aresol spray that simplify this if someone feels the need.
I don't think any FWD boats are carb'd anymore?
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:21 am
by cmattj
akorcovelos wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:13 am
cmattj wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:10 am
Cast iron cylinders left for many months unused can form a slight tarnished rust even with the oil film left behind after its last running cycle. Remember you have valves left open so not all cylinders are sealed , and exposed to damp moist air. The thinking is piston rings won’t have to bear the clean up of rust and wear prematurely or loose sealing properties.
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We used to fog our race motors for winter by cranking it over 5-10 seconds ( you don’t need to run it) and spraying a blend of marvel and oil through a wide open carb. ( ignition off ) .
Stabil makes aresol spray that simplify this if someone feels the need.
I don't think any FWD boats are carb'd anymore?
Geeze then how does air get in the engine on the new fangled Boats ?
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:43 am
by akorcovelos
cmattj wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:21 am
akorcovelos wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:13 am
cmattj wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:10 am
Cast iron cylinders left for many months unused can form a slight tarnished rust even with the oil film left behind after its last running cycle. Remember you have valves left open so not all cylinders are sealed , and exposed to damp moist air. The thinking is piston rings won’t have to bear the clean up of rust and wear prematurely or loose sealing properties.
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We used to fog our race motors for winter by cranking it over 5-10 seconds ( you don’t need to run it) and spraying a blend of marvel and oil through a wide open carb. ( ignition off ) .
Stabil makes aresol spray that simplify this if someone feels the need.
I don't think any FWD boats are carb'd anymore?
Geeze then how does air get in the engine on the new fangled Boats ?
It's actually very simple, here's a great video that makes it understandable for even the simplest of minds.
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:25 pm
by jhnmdahl
Akorcovelos, reminds me of my engineering grad school comprehensive exam :/
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:29 pm
by Big Block Power
Matt and akor I'm lost. Please make it simpler. What's a carb? What's a FWD. It's that the new 4wheel drive boat?
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:22 pm
by akorcovelos
Big Block Power wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:29 pm
Matt and akor I'm lost. Please make it simpler. What's a carb? What's a FWD. It's that the new 4wheel drive boat?
Carbs make you fat, and FWD = front wheel drive BB, I thought you were a professional?
Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:24 pm
by akorcovelos
jhnmdahl wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:25 pm
Akorcovelos, reminds me of my engineering grad school comprehensive exam :/
This is exactly why I never got my PE.

Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:43 pm
by AsLan7
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Where did you dig that one up akor. Must have been a Chrysler employee training joke vid? Love that rust prone K-car era crap on wheels in the background too.
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Re: Help with Volvo FWD winterizing process
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:47 am
by Ytmsn
That's 3 and a half minutes of my life I'll never get back...