Thinking of a new tow vehicle.

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AsLan7 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:27 pm
VTENGR wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:05 pm
AsLan7 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:17 am Anyone towing with an X7 M50i? We are considering that as our next tow vehicle.
I don't know if the tow rating is much different for the X7 but the X5 with tow package can only tow 6,200 lbs, if I remember correctly.
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We don't tow long distances and our Mercedes GL550 pulled our 263 nicely using a 429hp/516ft-pound twin turbo V8. It stopped very well too with it's massive brakes. It has a 7,500 pound tow rating.

A 2021 X7 M50i should be similar using a 523hp/553ft-pound twin turbo V8 with even bigger brakes. I know if you ordered an X7 with the factory hitch option you can tow 7,507lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.

If you ordered an X7 WITHOUT the factory hitch option and the hitch was installed at the dealer, your max towing capacity drops to 5,952lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.


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That's perfect! I can say this, we love our X5 M50i. Thing is a beast!
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What about a Durango srt? 392 or hell cat one?
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We really are looking at the tundra hybrid
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Big Block Power wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:37 pm What about a Durango srt? 392 or hell cat one?
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We owned two Durangos and an Aspen Hybrid with the similar 5.7 hemi engine. Really enjoyed those as well. Another great option.
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Here's a piece of info shared with me from a friend who just went through the car buying process. Inventory is scarce to say the least and as a result, in many markets, dealers are adding stupd high premiums. (I know one example in CA where the dealers were marking up Toyota Camry's $8,999 for dealer adjustment). My freind found a loophole- Apparently, with some manufacturers if you special order/build a vehicle from the factory, they can't put the dealer markup on it for some reason. Yes, you have to wait 6-8 weeks, but I could do that for $9k. I have no idea if this is in every market or every manufacturer, but just something to think about.


How is the inventory on tow vehicles?
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How did your friend secure that loophole? We are looking at toyota tundra so would be curious. Our dealer is tacking on 9k as well and some dealers are 20k for a tundra
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AsLan7 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:27 pm Thanks V.

We don't tow long distances and our Mercedes GL550 pulled our 263 nicely using a 429hp/516ft-pound twin turbo V8. It stopped very well too with it's massive brakes. It has a 7,500 pound tow rating.

A 2021 X7 M50i should be similar using a 523hp/553ft-pound twin turbo V8 with even bigger brakes. I know if you ordered an X7 with the factory hitch option you can tow 7,507lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.

If you ordered an X7 WITHOUT the factory hitch option and the hitch was installed at the dealer, your max towing capacity drops to 5,952lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.
Stealth Hitches rate their aftermarket hitch for an X7 to 8000 lbs trailer weight - check out https://stealthhitches.com/products/bmw ... md_x7-m50i

It's not a factory hitch, but they have a good reputation among the BMW crowd.
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jhnmdahl wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:58 pm
AsLan7 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:27 pm Thanks V.

We don't tow long distances and our Mercedes GL550 pulled our 263 nicely using a 429hp/516ft-pound twin turbo V8. It stopped very well too with it's massive brakes. It has a 7,500 pound tow rating.

A 2021 X7 M50i should be similar using a 523hp/553ft-pound twin turbo V8 with even bigger brakes. I know if you ordered an X7 with the factory hitch option you can tow 7,507lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.

If you ordered an X7 WITHOUT the factory hitch option and the hitch was installed at the dealer, your max towing capacity drops to 5,952lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.
Stealth Hitches rate their aftermarket hitch for an X7 to 8000 lbs trailer weight - check out https://stealthhitches.com/products/bmw ... md_x7-m50i

It's not a factory hitch, but they have a good reputation among the BMW crowd.
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Hey thanks Jmd. My information came off of the BMW forum. I don't think the Stealth Hitch product was discussed. Nice option to have though. My main concern would be programming the ECU which Stealth Hitch does mention briefly in the instructions but does not go into detail.

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AsLan7 wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:35 am
jhnmdahl wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:58 pm
AsLan7 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:27 pm Thanks V.

We don't tow long distances and our Mercedes GL550 pulled our 263 nicely using a 429hp/516ft-pound twin turbo V8. It stopped very well too with it's massive brakes. It has a 7,500 pound tow rating.

A 2021 X7 M50i should be similar using a 523hp/553ft-pound twin turbo V8 with even bigger brakes. I know if you ordered an X7 with the factory hitch option you can tow 7,507lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.

If you ordered an X7 WITHOUT the factory hitch option and the hitch was installed at the dealer, your max towing capacity drops to 5,952lbs/606lbs tongue, if the trailer has brakes.
Stealth Hitches rate their aftermarket hitch for an X7 to 8000 lbs trailer weight - check out https://stealthhitches.com/products/bmw ... md_x7-m50i

It's not a factory hitch, but they have a good reputation among the BMW crowd.
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Hey thanks Jmd. My information came off of the BMW forum. I don't think the Stealth Hitch product was discussed. Nice option to have though. My main concern would be programming the ECU which Stealth Hitch does mention briefly in the instructions but does not go into detail.

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But if you don't get the hitch towing package and the tow rating goes down that's because something else is missing. Like suspension, brakes, cooling and so on. Get it factory or don't get it at all. My advice.
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Big Block Power wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:55 am
AsLan7 wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:35 am
jhnmdahl wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:58 pm

Stealth Hitches rate their aftermarket hitch for an X7 to 8000 lbs trailer weight - check out https://stealthhitches.com/products/bmw ... md_x7-m50i

It's not a factory hitch, but they have a good reputation among the BMW crowd.
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Hey thanks Jmd. My information came off of the BMW forum. I don't think the Stealth Hitch product was discussed. Nice option to have though. My main concern would be programming the ECU which Stealth Hitch does mention briefly in the instructions but does not go into detail.

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But if you don't get the hitch towing package and the tow rating goes down that's because something else is missing. Like suspension, brakes, cooling and so on. Get it factory or don't get it at all. My advice.
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That's always been my philosophy too bbp. Just surprised to see an aftermarket company stand behind that tow rating when there are many variables involved. We have always optioned our vehicles with the factory tow option.

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The M sport version of the X7 already has the bigger parts for towing (brakes and whatnot), but lacks the wiring. The big challenge is coding the car, which requires either a visit to the dealer or downloading specialized software and doing it yourself which is a bit tricky. A nice writeup of using it as an aftermarket option on an X7 is at:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3457 ... ch-tested/
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jhnmdahl wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:23 am The M sport version of the X7 already has the bigger parts for towing (brakes and whatnot), but lacks the wiring. The big challenge is coding the car, which requires either a visit to the dealer or downloading specialized software and doing it yourself which is a bit tricky. A nice writeup of using it as an aftermarket option on an X7 is at:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3457 ... ch-tested/
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Nice article John.. Thanks for posting that.

We are currently in talks with a dealership who has a used 2021 X7 M50i with the factory hitch. Nice to know about the aftermarket option though.

Here is an X7 M50i we may consider with the factory hitch..

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AsLan7 wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:50 am
jhnmdahl wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:23 am The M sport version of the X7 already has the bigger parts for towing (brakes and whatnot), but lacks the wiring. The big challenge is coding the car, which requires either a visit to the dealer or downloading specialized software and doing it yourself which is a bit tricky. A nice writeup of using it as an aftermarket option on an X7 is at:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3457 ... ch-tested/
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Nice article John.. Thanks for posting that.

We are currently in talks with a dealership who has a used 2021 X7 M50i with the factory hitch. Nice to know about the aftermarket option though.

Here is an X7 M50i we may consider with the factory hitch..

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bmw1.jpg

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bmw4.jpg

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bmw3.jpg
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bmw5.jpg

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If you get this bad boy it'll be interesting to hear your impressions of it compared to your old GLS.
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ForeverCobalt wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:05 pm That's where my concern is, it is 9200lbs which means 6900 for tow, our R6 with trailer I understand is around 7500 to my understanding.

When you say "feel the difference" what exactly?
There is more back-end 'wiggle' with our 1/2 ton vs. the 3/4 ton when towing. We went from a Ford with a front straight axle to a Chevy with independent front suspension, so the ride is much better when unloaded though.
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AsLan7 wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:50 am
jhnmdahl wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:23 am The M sport version of the X7 already has the bigger parts for towing (brakes and whatnot), but lacks the wiring. The big challenge is coding the car, which requires either a visit to the dealer or downloading specialized software and doing it yourself which is a bit tricky. A nice writeup of using it as an aftermarket option on an X7 is at:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3457 ... ch-tested/
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Nice article John.. Thanks for posting that.

We are currently in talks with a dealership who has a used 2021 X7 M50i with the factory hitch. Nice to know about the aftermarket option though.

Here is an X7 M50i we may consider with the factory hitch..

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bmw2.jpg
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bmw1.jpg

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bmw4.jpg

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bmw3.jpg
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bmw5.jpg

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That looks really nice. Did they total your MBZ?
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