New A Seriesl?

[tgrace98]

I just want to see them offer more power in the 25-28ft range. These boats have had the same amount of hp for almost 20 years. Only thing that has really changed is Vovlo has made the motor smaller

Good point. I think two problems are in the way of that. First, there is only so much power that can be made from a single engine that would allow a 5 year warranty. Next, the beam doesn’t allow a second stern engine. I would be all over a twin engine R7 if that were possible.
I would not be surprised to see a twin engine outboard R7 in the future.

If they every put on outboard on a R series that will be the day I switch to formula .

If they can make 430hp in a small block just think what a big block could do. I know these are gm motors and even gm has gotten away from 500ci motors for their trucks

[cmattj]

I see cleats. Wonder what the other two fittings are?

Look like windlass switches.

Good point. I think two problems are in the way of that. First, there is only so much power that can be made from a single engine that would allow a 5 year warranty. Next, the beam doesn’t allow a second stern engine. I would be all over a twin engine R7 if that were possible.
I would not be surprised to see a twin engine outboard R7 in the future.

Now twin 6.2 could be possible.. mmmm ?

I could see it now

“Are your Kids tired of wake surfing? is Dad tired of surf planing at 7 mph for 2 hours?

Well let’s lift up those surf plates and head to dinner with twin 430hp in our A28

I think a 70 mph blast would help Dad.. lol

[NautiGirl]

I just want to see them offer more power in the 25-28ft range. These boats have had the same amount of hp for almost 20 years. Only thing that has really changed is Vovlo has made the motor smaller

Good point. I think two problems are in the way of that. First, there is only so much power that can be made from a single engine that would allow a 5 year warranty. Next, the beam doesn’t allow a second stern engine. I would be all over a twin engine R7 if that were possible.
I would not be surprised to see a twin engine outboard R7 in the future.

If they every put on outboard on a R series that will be the day I switch to formula .

What about TWO outboards

[Tuscany]

I just want to see them offer more power in the 25-28ft range. These boats have had the same amount of hp for almost 20 years. Only thing that has really changed is Vovlo has made the motor smaller

Good point. I think two problems are in the way of that. First, there is only so much power that can be made from a single engine that would allow a 5 year warranty. Next, the beam doesn’t allow a second stern engine. I would be all over a twin engine R7 if that were possible.
I would not be surprised to see a twin engine outboard R7 in the future.

If they every put on outboard on a R series that will be the day I switch to formula .

Don't look now TG
https://cobaltboats.com/outboards/sc-series/

As far as big blocks, they can only make the power that their archaic technology allows. The big block ship sailed (no pun intended) long ago for GM, so don't hold your breath on new BB technology, unless Merc invests in their own complete engine program, and they have already shown that new Merc money is all about outboards.

[tgrace98]

Good point. I think two problems are in the way of that. First, there is only so much power that can be made from a single engine that would allow a 5 year warranty. Next, the beam doesn’t allow a second stern engine. I would be all over a twin engine R7 if that were possible.
I would not be surprised to see a twin engine outboard R7 in the future.

If they every put on outboard on a R series that will be the day I switch to formula .

Don't look now TG
https://cobaltboats.com/outboards/sc-series/

As far as big blocks, they can only make the power that their archaic technology provides. The big block ship sailed (no pun intended) long ago for GM, so don't hold your breath on new BB technology, unless Merc invests in their own complete engine program, and they have already shown that new Merc money is all about outboards.

I don't even have to click the link. I saw one at the gas dock a few weeks ago and about barfed off the side of my boat.

I guess I do not get the outboard fad because I boat in a deep fresh water lake. I just hate how the outboard consumes the majority of the swim platform and that is very often used space for me in my boating habits.

I like Matt's idea of twin 6.2's in a A28. I would assume it would need a 9ft beam in order to accomplish this.

[Tuscany]

Outboards dominate salt, and salt surrounds our countries coastlines. Lots of miles, and wealthy land owners/customers. I see Mercs decision as pretty sound.
Speaking of Formula, look at their outboard mounting system. The entire swim deck is unaffected.

Side thought.. GM may start down the same path as Ford by developing smaller turbocharged V6 engines. The new Lincoln Nav runs 420+ horses from that small package. Two of them may just fit in a 8.6" beam..
We can only

[Table Rockin]

If they every put on outboard on a R series that will be the day I switch to formula .

Don't look now TG
https://cobaltboats.com/outboards/sc-series/

As far as big blocks, they can only make the power that their archaic technology provides. The big block ship sailed (no pun intended) long ago for GM, so don't hold your breath on new BB technology, unless Merc invests in their own complete engine program, and they have already shown that new Merc money is all about outboards.

I don't even have to click the link. I saw one at the gas dock a few weeks ago and about barfed off the side of my boat.

I guess I do not get the outboard fad because I boat in a deep fresh water lake. I just hate how the outboard consumes the majority of the swim platform and that is very often used space for me in my boating habits.

I like Matt's idea of twin 6.2's in a A28. I would assume it would need a 9ft beam in order to accomplish this.

1000% agree. Zero reason for an outboard on freshwater. Why kill the platform utilization?

I like the idea of a 9' beam A series....alot

[Tuscany]

Agree.. That would make the most sense, having a 9' beam and twins on the new A.
Any bets?

[tgrace98]

Outboards dominate salt, and salt surrounds our countries coastlines. Lots of miles, and wealthy land owners/customers. I see Mercs decision as pretty sound.
Speaking of Formula, look at their outboard mounting system. The entire swim deck is unaffected.

Side thought.. GM may start down the same path as Ford by developing smaller turbocharged V6 engines. The new Lincoln Nav runs 420+ horses from that small package. Two of them may just fit in a 8.6" beam..
We can only

Are you talking about the way they mount triple 350 verado's on a 350 crossover? I saw one of those at the boat show last winter. That would for sure be my if I hit the lotto boat. Although an MTI center console with 5 350 verados would do as well

[NautiGirl]

Outboards dominate salt, and salt surrounds our countries coastlines. Lots of miles, and wealthy land owners/customers. I see Mercs decision as pretty sound.
Speaking of Formula, look at their outboard mounting system. The entire swim deck is unaffected.

Side thought.. GM may start down the same path as Ford by developing smaller turbocharged V6 engines. The new Lincoln Nav runs 420+ horses from that small package. Two of them may just fit in a 8.6" beam..
We can only

Curious how a turbo charged platform would work in a runabout. Supercharger sure - but turbo's generate a ton more heat as they are pushing the exhaust back through the engine. Also - with boats sitting at 3 - 4k RPM for long periods thats a lot of time under boost.

The varying RPM and load of a car engine gives the turbo and engine some time to cool down, not so much in a marine environment. Most important that A25 is going to look pretty ridiculous running around the lake /w a front mount intercooler. lololol.

[tgrace98]

Outboards dominate salt, and salt surrounds our countries coastlines. Lots of miles, and wealthy land owners/customers. I see Mercs decision as pretty sound.
Speaking of Formula, look at their outboard mounting system. The entire swim deck is unaffected.

Side thought.. GM may start down the same path as Ford by developing smaller turbocharged V6 engines. The new Lincoln Nav runs 420+ horses from that small package. Two of them may just fit in a 8.6" beam..
We can only

Curious how a turbo charged platform would work in a runabout. Supercharger sure - but turbo's generate a ton more heat as they are pushing the exhaust back through the engine. Also - with boats sitting at 3 - 4k RPM for long periods thats a lot of time under boost.

The varying RPM and load of a car engine gives the turbo and engine some time to cool down, not so much in a marine environment. Most important that A25 is going to look pretty ridiculous running around the lake /w a front mount intercooler. lololol.

So all the Mercury racing engines are now turbo charged. If you look at the 750, 1100 and so on. Now take in mind these are purpose built motors that are torn down and rebuilt every 30hrs or so. So not really a good one to compare off of. But it has been done.

[Tuscany]

I would guess the entire exhaust side of the turbos would be wrapped. The other simpler option other than wrapping is a constant blower in the motorbox to cool the area. Combine the two, and I think the problem might be solved.

Small turbo engines seem to be Ford has been, and where GM is heading. Got to know what ever is in the future for the automakers is in the future for Merc/VP.
My Wife's 6.2l 420/460 was in the body shop last week repairing the rear bumper cover. Don't ask...

She had a turbo V6 Expedition as a loaner. Very impressive.

[liquid]

Lol! I'd still settle for grandpa's A series....

Me too.

WHAT ??!
And give up what many say is the greatest cobalt ever made ?

NEVER!

[NautiGirl]

I would guess the entire exhaust side of the turbos would be wrapped. The other simpler option other than wrapping is a constant blower in the motorbox to cool the area. Combine the two, and I think the problem might be solved.

Small turbo engines seem to be Ford has been, and where GM is heading. Got to know what ever is in the future for the automakers is in the future for Merc/VP.
My Wife's 6.2l 420/460 was in the body shop last week repairing the rear bumper cover. Don't ask...
She had a turbo V6 Expedition as a loaner. Very impressive.

I agree smaller forced induction is the future, I have owned a WRX and now own an EcoBoost. SuperCharged seems like it may be easier for Boats. EGT's on my WRX hit 1200 - 1400 degrees. I think the EcoBoost is closer to 1000, but either way thats a lot of heat to vent out of the engine compartment especially when you start taking about two engines.

Matt or T5500000000 can chime in and tell me I have no idea what I am talking about

[Tuscany]

I would guess the entire exhaust side of the turbos would be wrapped. The other simpler option other than wrapping is a constant blower in the motorbox to cool the area. Combine the two, and I think the problem might be solved.

Small turbo engines seem to be Ford has been, and where GM is heading. Got to know what ever is in the future for the automakers is in the future for Merc/VP.
My Wife's 6.2l 420/460 was in the body shop last week repairing the rear bumper cover. Don't ask...
She had a turbo V6 Expedition as a loaner. Very impressive.

I agree smaller forced induction is the future, I have owned a WRX and now own an EcoBoost. SuperCharged seems like it may be easier for Boats. EGT's on my WRX hit 1200 - 1400 degrees. I think the EcoBoost is closer to 1000, but either way thats a lot of heat to vent out of the engine compartment especially when you start taking about two engines.

Matt or T5500000000 can chime in and tell me I have no idea what I am talking about

Agreed, but I got to think wrapping them would be enough. Tight aluminum insulated wrap is pretty secure, and the Ford turbos are a very small package, so they could be moved to accommodate insulating. All of the heat then exits the pipe, or in your case, the CC!