Anyone waiting for one of the 4, 6 or 8's?

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NautiGirl wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:33 pm
BobRae99 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:30 pm
NautiGirl wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:56 pm

I would be surprised if Cobalt stopped producing Forward Drive Surf versions of their R series boats. I think you are missing their intended purpose. You are correct, the Cobalt surf models do not produce a wave of the same quality as a dedicated surf boat. They are not designed to. Cobalt designed a boat that you can surf behind when you want to, but that also rides like a traditional bow rider when the tanks are empty.

If you have ever ridden across a lake in a Malibu you know they ride like crap, empty tanks or not. The majority of people I know surf for a few hours in the morning and then want to enjoy a boat ride of two across the lake in the afternoon. They are not professional wake surfers and can deal with a lesser quality wave in exchange for a better riding boat.
I think you are missing my point. I don't believe the R6 would be a dedicated surf boat as that would require a different hull design than the current R5. Given that I've been told by Cobalt that the R5 will be phased out, an R6 Surf only boat as suggested earlier doesn't make sense. The R series boats are the bread and butter of the Cobalt lineup and not having a stern drive 25' boat would leave a big hole. I'm betting the R6 will be an updated R5 (hull, interior, etc.) that will improve its dual purpose (stern/surf) performance. I guess we'll know in a few months.
OK I was obviously confused. Must have been lost in the translation between United States English and Canadian English lol.

Agree, the R6 wont be a dedicated surf boat, but they will offer an R6 with the Forward drive and surf package. We on the same page now?
:) Speculating about new boats is always fun. I agree. I think it will be a dual purpose platform. I'm sure we'll know by spring.
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My insights earlier came from someone who has ridden on the prototype...
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sailor55330 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:29 am My insights earlier came from someone who has ridden on the prototype...
did this someone mention anything about an R8 with Twin 400 verado's?? that may spark my interest.
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Not specifically anything about an R8....now, it seems like it could be in the realm of possibility
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tgrace98 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:27 am
sailor55330 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:29 am My insights earlier came from someone who has ridden on the prototype...
did this someone mention anything about an R8 with Twin 400 verado's?? that may spark my interest.
I think Cobalt has no choice but to offer more outboards.
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I agree Tusc. I would think it could make them a true salt water option. It would be easy to add the coveted “twins” and maintenance would be very simple compared to an inboard. I’m not really a fan of the look of outboards on a bow rider but I get the versatility. Also would think it’s easier to install at the factory. We should know in about 18 months I guess.

Now, let’s assume you could put twins on something the size of an R5. What’s the smallest twin configuration you would accept (trying to be serious with this question). 175? 200, 250?
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sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:39 pm I agree Tusc. I would think it could make them a true salt water option. It would be easy to add the coveted “twins” and maintenance would be very simple compared to an inboard. I’m not really a fan of the look of outboards on a bow rider but I get the versatility. Also would think it’s easier to install at the factory. We should know in about 18 months I guess.

Now, let’s assume you could put twins on something the size of an R5. What’s the smallest twin configuration you would accept (trying to be serious with this question). 175? 200, 250?
If your giving me up to a 250 then twin 250s it is. I think twin 300s would be better and Avail. But you know I won't stop there. Twin 450s!! Merc of course.
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sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:39 pm I agree Tusc. I would think it could make them a true salt water option. It would be easy to add the coveted “twins” and maintenance would be very simple compared to an inboard. I’m not really a fan of the look of outboards on a bow rider but I get the versatility. Also would think it’s easier to install at the factory. We should know in about 18 months I guess.

Now, let’s assume you could put twins on something the size of an R5. What’s the smallest twin configuration you would accept (trying to be serious with this question). 175? 200, 250?
I’m warming up to the idea of outboards. I think if I was in the 30ft market I would look at the 30sc before the R30. Where I’m at I could extend my boating season till pretty much Christmas with outboards. Heck it’s going to be almost 70 at Trl on Christmas. And be back out early March. But they need to figure out how to give you a useable swim platform. That’s why I said twins on a 27-28ft
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So how much are you willing to sacrifice for twins? Would you give up the swim platform for the sacred twin outboards? Could you do a surf configuration with twins?
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sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm So how much are you willing to sacrifice for twins?
Bunches ( yes that’s a word.. look it up ).

Having my second Twin engine boat the obvious parking like a tank is a fun feature. But the effortless cruise speed and less strain felt is worth it.
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sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm Would you give up the swim platform for the sacred twin outboards?
Yes.. extended platforms with deep insets for the egg beaters are becoming more common. You can almost stern in and the sides are seemingly getting bigger.
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm Could you do a surf configuration with twins?
Anything is possible but it’s a deadly combo with those egg beaters spinning.
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I’m in on some easy to clean white cowled Merc 350 Verados on a 30SC. I would miss the sound of the ol 496s but in time I’d enjoy the easy wipe down and longevity.

Plus they’ll throw a rooster tail if we go 400R with the shortys😎.

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cmattj wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:07 pm
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm So how much are you willing to sacrifice for twins?
Bunches ( yes that’s a word.. look it up ).

Having my second Twin engine boat the obvious parking like a tank is a fun feature. But the effortless cruise speed and less strain felt is worth it.
Oh and 16 cylinders is awesome with CC. 🤣
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm Would you give up the swim platform for the sacred twin outboards?
Yes.. extended platforms with deep insets for the egg beaters are becoming more common. You can almost stern in and the sides are seemingly getting bigger.
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm Could you do a surf configuration with twins?
Anything is possible but it’s a deadly combo with those egg beaters spinning.
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I’m in on some easy to clean white cowled Merc 350 Verados on a 30SC. I would miss the sound of the ol 496s but in time I’d enjoy the easy wipe down and longevity.

Plus they’ll throw a rooster tail if we go 400R with the shortys😎.

Were did a leave my boozer?

I could not have said it any better myself. So Kate will we be seeing twin outboards on the next R series??
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I totally get why outboards are gaining popularity, but an outboard can never raise the hairs on my neck like an open header big block.
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cmattj wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:07 pm
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm So how much are you willing to sacrifice for twins?
Bunches ( yes that’s a word.. look it up ).

Having my second Twin engine boat the obvious parking like a tank is a fun feature. But the effortless cruise speed and less strain felt is worth it.
Oh and 16 cylinders is awesome with CC. 🤣
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm Would you give up the swim platform for the sacred twin outboards?
Yes.. extended platforms with deep insets for the egg beaters are becoming more common. You can almost stern in and the sides are seemingly getting bigger.
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:36 pm Could you do a surf configuration with twins?
Anything is possible but it’s a deadly combo with those egg beaters spinning.
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I’m in on some easy to clean white cowled Merc 350 Verados on a 30SC. I would miss the sound of the ol 496s but in time I’d enjoy the easy wipe down and longevity.

Plus they’ll throw a rooster tail if we go 400R with the shortys😎.

Were did a leave my boozer?
Easy there CJM...take some time and put some thought into this—-no sense in just throwing ideas willy billy

J/k—great post
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sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:08 pm
Easy there CJM...take some time and put some thought into this—-no sense in just throwing ideas willy billy

J/k—great post
Thanks pal!
I should also admit that over the last decade with outboards coming on strong in the bowrider market , and not just targeting the saltwater boater......

They are getting sexier to look at.

5 years ago. ( Big improvement in cowlings)
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cmattj wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:32 am
sailor55330 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:08 pm
Easy there CJM...take some time and put some thought into this—-no sense in just throwing ideas willy billy

J/k—great post
Thanks pal!
I should also admit that over the last decade with outboards coming on strong in the bowrider market , and not just targeting the saltwater boater......

They are getting sexier to look at.

5 years ago. ( Big improvement in cowlings)
.
E4238F5E-0195-40E5-8A96-DBEBCF57AB0C.jpeg
Today’s Merc. My fav
.
DE233379-4D1A-4DC0-B046-AAC9BA17B30E.jpeg
I'm ok with the big black cowling. At least you knew what it was.
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